Bitch Session with Jeremy Zawodny: Gnomedex 6.0

Posted in Events, Opinion, Social networking

I think it’s appropriate that Jeremy Zawodny moves into a planned "bitch session" [particularly social software/media] after the bitch slapping of our last session.

  • there is too much social software and the value of each one is being depleted
  • focus on why you use a service not how you use it or the features it has (don’t put the solution first)
  • connect services so they are not data islands
  • we don’t look outside our own ecosystem to the real world
  • we look down on other services (MySpace) and people because they are not in the A-list but rather the "mass" market
  • we talk about users not people
  • we argue too much about terminology ("buzz words")
  • we don’t know what regular people do at their computers (our assumptions suck, especially in software development)
  • we need more non-geeks at ‘geek’ conferences
  • the computer screen is not the only user interface – ‘think beyond the screen’
  • we need to think globally [place] don’t forget what’s happening now with visions of the future [and vice versa], we need standards to build niches upon [scale]
  • it’s easy to claim something is dead, but when is the true death and what will replace it?
  • if we are making things for ‘our parents’, why don’t we ask them what they want out of social networking sites?
  • do our parents even realize they want something more from their computer experience? probably not.
  • we focus too much on a user experience for an audience we may never reach, while a growing one (the giant massing teen audience) is being looked down on by all of us
  • how much of the information we put online now going to affect us in the future?
  • are tags hot? or a solution for broken search?
  • spam spam spam
  • more programs are going online, thus more data is going online – but our legal boundaries do not extend and protect us online. laws are outdated – apply physical laws to the digital world
  • creativity is age defiant
  • age is an outdated marketing concept. It’s experiential now. People in this room need some marketing teaching.
  • old school code does not talk well with new school code
  • large companies like Yahoo need to take a lead in de-compartmentalizing their stuff (groups, photos, Flickr, 360, etc)
  • we need APIs in order to de-compartmentalize
  • if we don’t know problems, we cannot solve them – we need to talk to more everyday people
  • we spend too much time infighting (mass ego fights)
  • how are we going to reach the masses if we fight internally about who is better all the time? We’re coming at it from the wrong angle
  • seniors have the most amount of discretionary time & $ – we can’t forget them either
  • it’s the context of when people use the tools not the tools themselves
  • let’s build things for real people, not for each other
  • our tools – what we use as geeks – have very little value to outsiders. Our echo chamber is not the real world.
  • mainstream issues are not the same as issues that are in the blogosphere. Big news to us may have little relevance or impact outside our bubble.

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5 Responses to “Bitch Session with Jeremy Zawodny: Gnomedex 6.0”

  1. [...] Jeremy Zawodny (Yahoo’s top blogger) lead a panel a ‘Complaining Session’ about Social Media and web development. Pretty extensive list here by Arienna.  We did this at bloggercon and it was very effective and actually quite theraputic. Notable favorites include: (My thoughts in bold) [...]

  2. [...] I see my suggestion to Jeremy Zawodny didn’t make it into his notes.  I suggested that perhaps the most important contribution Jeremy could make to Yahoo – would be to roll up his sleeves and take personal responsiblity for migrating much of the ‘old guard’ of Yahoo over to a new way of thinking. [...]

  3. [...] Bitch Session with Jeremy Zawodny: Gnomedex 6.0 Very, very interesting (tags: web2.0 socialsoftware) [...]

  4. [...] Blogaholics » Blog Archive » Bitch Session with Jeremy Zawodny: Gnomedex 6.0 (tags: web2.0 socialsoftware) [...]

  5. [...] Some bulletpoints were recorded by a fellow Gnomedexer (thanks Arieanna): [...]

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